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		<title>By: Anintybot</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 00:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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- можем работать на постоянной основе несколько url одновременно(в любой момент url можно поменять);<br />
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		<title>By: vuttimmincift</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 13:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Goof</title>
		<link>http://timothyblee.com/2009/09/08/nathan-myhrvolds-evil-genius/comment-page-2/#comment-10347</link>
		<dc:creator>Goof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, they already filed for their own &#039;business method&#039;

http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=w-SoAAAAEBAJ&amp;dq=inassignee:intellectual+ventures

Given the small number of patents actually assigned to &#039;Intellectual Ventures&#039; (according to Google) I wonder under what name most of their filings are actually held?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, they already filed for their own &#8216;business method&#8217;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=w-SoAAAAEBAJ&amp;dq=inassignee:intellectual+ventures" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=w-SoAAAAEBAJ&amp;dq=inassignee:intellectual+ventures</a></p>
<p>Given the small number of patents actually assigned to &#8216;Intellectual Ventures&#8217; (according to Google) I wonder under what name most of their filings are actually held?</p>
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		<title>By: Kamal Das (KD)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kamal Das (KD)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intellectual Ventures is a REAL company :)

&quot;In thinking about how to reform the patent system, a good yardstick would be to look for policy changes that would tend to put Myhrvold and his firm out of business.&quot;

LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intellectual Ventures is a REAL company <img src='http://timothyblee.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;In thinking about how to reform the patent system, a good yardstick would be to look for policy changes that would tend to put Myhrvold and his firm out of business.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Buckner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Buckner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Upthread, Dale B. Halling says &quot;Intellectual Ventures and other so-called patent trolls are really the beginning of a secondary market in patents.&quot;

Ohmygod. Derivatives! Andy Grove warned about this in May: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601204&amp;sid=aw5EZ9BzrgtU</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Upthread, Dale B. Halling says &#8220;Intellectual Ventures and other so-called patent trolls are really the beginning of a secondary market in patents.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ohmygod. Derivatives! Andy Grove warned about this in May: <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601204&amp;sid=aw5EZ9BzrgtU" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601204&amp;sid=aw5EZ9BzrgtU</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trade secrets I don&#039;t mind at all. Almost anything worthwhile will eventually be rediscovered, reverse engineered or leaked in any case. In the meantime, the inventor fully deserves to make use of their secret.

It seems that patent law is now a weapon that can be used to expose any trade secret, see &lt;a&gt;Facebook Ordered (Again) To Turn Over Source Code&lt;/a&gt;. So now holding a typical vague all-reaching patent &quot;associating a piece of data with multiple categories&quot; is enough to get access to a well-known company&#039;s entire body of source code - WTF? 

I said earlier that I think the patent system should be abolished because it does more harm than good. Actually I&#039;m not even convinced that it does any good at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trade secrets I don&#8217;t mind at all. Almost anything worthwhile will eventually be rediscovered, reverse engineered or leaked in any case. In the meantime, the inventor fully deserves to make use of their secret.</p>
<p>It seems that patent law is now a weapon that can be used to expose any trade secret, see <a>Facebook Ordered (Again) To Turn Over Source Code</a>. So now holding a typical vague all-reaching patent &#8220;associating a piece of data with multiple categories&#8221; is enough to get access to a well-known company&#8217;s entire body of source code &#8211; WTF? </p>
<p>I said earlier that I think the patent system should be abolished because it does more harm than good. Actually I&#8217;m not even convinced that it does any good at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Treloar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Treloar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As previous readers have pointed out, there is minimal value in lambasting the patent system unless you can come up with an alternative. 
For years I have tried to tell people that the only alternative is trade secrets. I then normally launch into a discussion of the invention of forceps which is one of the few examples of one family keeping an idea secret for about 100 years, no doubt resulting in the death of untold women during child birth (google Chamberlen &amp; Forceps). One day I will write a learned article on this....

This case alone convinces me of the value of the patent system (but then I am a patent attorney). 

Peter T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As previous readers have pointed out, there is minimal value in lambasting the patent system unless you can come up with an alternative.<br />
For years I have tried to tell people that the only alternative is trade secrets. I then normally launch into a discussion of the invention of forceps which is one of the few examples of one family keeping an idea secret for about 100 years, no doubt resulting in the death of untold women during child birth (google Chamberlen &amp; Forceps). One day I will write a learned article on this&#8230;.</p>
<p>This case alone convinces me of the value of the patent system (but then I am a patent attorney). </p>
<p>Peter T.</p>
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		<title>By: bud</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>40 e.,

I would say that your example of a bird whistle is not dispositive.

Said whistle could be built, a high speed fan blown over it and the recording of the produced sound could be played to flock of starlings, repelling them. This parametric-level testing would be sufficient proof of implementaion for a patent. This could probably be done for a cost of the same order of magnitude as the legal fees.

If the intent is to eliminate patent trolls, anything that makes the mere generation of large amounts of paper (or computer files) profitable will do the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>40 e.,</p>
<p>I would say that your example of a bird whistle is not dispositive.</p>
<p>Said whistle could be built, a high speed fan blown over it and the recording of the produced sound could be played to flock of starlings, repelling them. This parametric-level testing would be sufficient proof of implementaion for a patent. This could probably be done for a cost of the same order of magnitude as the legal fees.</p>
<p>If the intent is to eliminate patent trolls, anything that makes the mere generation of large amounts of paper (or computer files) profitable will do the job.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Kaiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Kaiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eliminating patents is extreme and actually would hurt the society as it would discourage expensive research. How about this &quot;simple&quot; solution: Charge say $1,000,000 per patent application. This would:

1. Allow the patent office to actually to do proper research, hire real experts in the field to examine whether an actual invention occurred

2. Eliminate companies filing for patents by the thousands. In some large companies engineers have quotas of patents to be filed per year.

3. Eliminate the backlog of patent applications - companies would not have to worry that what they are doing now may in fact be already in some application in the multi-year backlog at the patent office

4. It would eliminate the IV business model (too expensive to patent anything which comes to your head)

5. It would still protect ideas which took a lot of money to research (such as medical research into drugs, etc) - protection needed for things expensive to develop but easy to copy.

The only drawback would be that Joe Citizen in his garage could not seek patent protection. I agree. But who are we kidding? When was the last time the lonely inventor was protected by his patent? The lonely inventor may be able to afford a patent but not to fight it anyways. We should give up that notion and be done with it. Maybe there is another way we could protect the lonely inventor, but patents are not it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eliminating patents is extreme and actually would hurt the society as it would discourage expensive research. How about this &#8220;simple&#8221; solution: Charge say $1,000,000 per patent application. This would:</p>
<p>1. Allow the patent office to actually to do proper research, hire real experts in the field to examine whether an actual invention occurred</p>
<p>2. Eliminate companies filing for patents by the thousands. In some large companies engineers have quotas of patents to be filed per year.</p>
<p>3. Eliminate the backlog of patent applications &#8211; companies would not have to worry that what they are doing now may in fact be already in some application in the multi-year backlog at the patent office</p>
<p>4. It would eliminate the IV business model (too expensive to patent anything which comes to your head)</p>
<p>5. It would still protect ideas which took a lot of money to research (such as medical research into drugs, etc) &#8211; protection needed for things expensive to develop but easy to copy.</p>
<p>The only drawback would be that Joe Citizen in his garage could not seek patent protection. I agree. But who are we kidding? When was the last time the lonely inventor was protected by his patent? The lonely inventor may be able to afford a patent but not to fight it anyways. We should give up that notion and be done with it. Maybe there is another way we could protect the lonely inventor, but patents are not it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If software and Business method patents were eliminated, that would close up his shop, because mechanical patents require tinkering to get to them work.

Then sitting around blue skying wouldn&#039;t patent out so well.  A mechanical/electrical device that actually works isn&#039;t something you can design very well at 50,000 feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If software and Business method patents were eliminated, that would close up his shop, because mechanical patents require tinkering to get to them work.</p>
<p>Then sitting around blue skying wouldn&#8217;t patent out so well.  A mechanical/electrical device that actually works isn&#8217;t something you can design very well at 50,000 feet.</p>
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